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Trump, Staring At Recession, Tips Payroll Tax Cut, ‘Dramatic’ Measures. Kelton Says ‘Run MUCH Bigger Deficits’

"I will be here tomorrow afternoon to let you know."

Donald Trump is a man who loves superlatives, which is why it’s no surprise that when it comes to what his administration plans to do to cushion the US economy from the deleterious effects of the various containment measures aimed at stopping the spread of coronavirus, the president promised something “major”.

Flanked by nearly a dozen aides and advisors including a terrified-looking Steve Mnuchin, a somber Peter Navarro and a talking mannequin called “Mike”, Trump told reporters he’s set to announce something “very dramatic” on Tuesday.

“I will be here tomorrow afternoon to let you know about some of the economic steps, which will be major”, he promised. Apparently, a payroll tax cut is in the cards. As Trump explained, he doesn’t want wage earners to “get penalized for something that’s not their fault”.


It was an odd way to describe virus containment measures. Wage earners aren’t really being “penalized”, per se. It’s true they may get hurt, but by virtue of being a virus, COVID-19 doesn’t have a sense of purpose and health officials aren’t out to “penalize” anyone by taking steps to protect the public from a pathogen – rather, they’re trying to save lives.

In any case, Mnuchin reminded the media that the proximate cause of Monday’s carnage on Wall Street (where stocks dropped the most since the financial crisis) was actually the oil price war begun on Saturday by the Saudis. He also said bank executives would be coming to the White House later this week.

“This is not like the financial crisis where we don’t know the end in sight. This is about providing proper tools and liquidity to get through the next few months”, Mnuchin chided. “The economy will be in very good shape a year from now”.

Just days ago, Mnuchin said a payroll tax cut wasn’t under discussion. That was during the same series of remarks that found the Treasury Secretary noting that “there would be no reason to halt [the stock market]”. “We have proper circuit breakers in place”, Mnuchin said last Tuesday.

Those circuit breakers were tripped on Monday. Trump’s stimulus promise was enough to get a sharp bounce out of futures, although “sharp” is now a relative term.

“Despite these being the ‘greatest’ economy and stock market ever, both appear to be ever clamoring for perpetual monetary and fiscal help”, JonesTrading’s Mike O’Rourke remarked, in a Monday evening note, adding that “the risk remains that there is still a great deal yet to play out and most of it will be on the negative side”.


Monday is hardly the first time a payroll tax cut has come up. Generally speaking, Trump is all-in when it comes to windfalls for the wealthy and corporations, but all bluff when it comes to the middle class, as we saw ahead of the midterms when he blindsided Republicans by announcing an 10% tax cut for middle-income families, a plan that unsurprisingly never materialized.

A payroll tax cut would benefit middle-earners, and it’s likely to gain traction on Capitol Hill, especially under the circumstances.

For what it’s worth, Obama’s payroll tax cuts did, in fact, do some good for families. “The median household income in 2009 was $49,777 [so] lowering the tax rate by 2% reduced the tax burden for the median family by $996”, Politifact wrote of Obama’s cuts in 2011. “As for mean household income, it was $67,976, meaning that the 2% payroll tax cut would have left $1,360 extra in the pockets of the average family”.

Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer want much more, including an expansion of paid sick leave, free testing for the virus and better unemployment insurance for anyone who loses their job due to the economic fallout from the epidemic. Lawmakers already passed an $8.3 billion emergency spending bill aimed at providing for medical and public health services.

The travel and hospitality industries have issued a bevy of warnings over the past week, including from United, Southwest, JetBlue, Booking Holdings and Host Hotels & Resorts, all of which have either cut their outlook or withdrawn their guidance altogether.

Thanks to the worst plunge in oil prices since 1991, you can expect credit events in the oil patch too, something the market is clearly anticipating.

(High Yield CDX spread – note the dramatic spike)

In short, the US economy is likely headed for a recession, a reality that analysts and economists are now begrudgingly coming to terms with.

One person who has an idea about what to do to right the ship is Stephanie Kelton, the face of modern monetary theory.

“Run deficits. Run big deficits. Run MUCH bigger deficits.”, she said Monday evening, adding that “we are in the midst of a pandemic and economic deterioration, and the deficits we’ve run in prior years have ZERO BEARING on our capacity to run deficits now”.

Any questions?


 

10 comments on “Trump, Staring At Recession, Tips Payroll Tax Cut, ‘Dramatic’ Measures. Kelton Says ‘Run MUCH Bigger Deficits’

  1. To be followed shortly by a suddenly urgent need to cut Social Security & Medicare.

  2. Peter says:

    Kelton’s policies would be a complete disaster. You can’t just point to Japan not having imploded completely to signal that MMT will cure everything. So stupid some people can’t see basic logic or understand behavioural psychology and confidence boundaries.

    • Kelton is great, and you are constructing a straw man. Kelton does not simply “point to Japan”. That is an intellectually dishonest thing to say. I would suggest you actually read what she’s written before you malign it. Would you be willing to debate her in public on the issues? I’m guessing that although you’ll say “yes” here, the real answer is “no”. She’s got a book coming out. You should pre-order one. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1541736184?tag=hacboogrosit-20

      • Peter says:

        Unfortunately your go-to rebuttal when people criticise Kelton and MMT is that they haven’t done their research, and if they did proper research then they would agree. I have spent time studying Kelton’s ideas and I fundamentally disagree.

        Furthermore Kelton does in fact use the argument (many times) that there is little inflation RIGHT NOW with large deficits and debt/GDP. Therefore her expansionary policies wouldn’t ever exceed some confidence boundary in the future, with all theoretical government spending perfectly planned out, so as not to contribute to inflation.

        I do respect that you’ve taken the time to analyse MMT, unlike many pundits and blogs, however.

        Thanks for the book recommendation, I probably will buy.

  3. hookandgo says:

    H-Man, to bail us out of this virus, it is going to require bigly $$$. If that means a larger deficit, so be it, since there are no other options on the table. The “bunker down and deal with it” mentality just doesn’t do the job when you have to look at laying off workers and shuttering the doors. Unless, of course, bankruptcy for all is your favorite flavor.

  4. If this was a military threat, would individuals and businesses be expected to fund there own defense? We wouldn’t even be considering it. Yet here we are, it has taken being under threat for two months before the government considers paying for the defense against the virus. That is beyond incompetence. It is ideology.

    • Jason Jones says:

      Hi all. I think when modeling the economy the rest of the year one would need to include the logistic equation describing the spread of the virus in the US. There are factors to that equation innate to the virus and there are factors to that equation having to do with to what extent individuals reduce their likelihood of spreading the virus further. The speed of the spread of the virus changes the outcome of the pandemic in the US and one part of the outcome of the pandemic in the US is a recession of some magnitude, timing, and duration. I’d hazard to speculate that Trump’s remarks about some dramatic announcement are going to influence the recession through both the virus logistic equation as well a through the economy directly. I don’t know how large an impact the announcement will have on the economy directly; however, the virus itself won’t hear the announcement and now that the virus has a foothold in the US it will continue to spread wherever humans gather in any density. So, unless the announcement will dramatically reduce the opportunity for the virus to spread in the next couple months I expect its short-term effects to be superficial at best. Look at the pandemic in Italy as leading the pandemic in the US by a little bit of time. Would an extra couple hundred dollars in the pocket of each citizen in Italy now make any difference given the rate of spread of the sickness?

  5. Bob says:

    Tax Cut? Trump is starting to look absurd. I want my government to give me Purell and some N95 face masks!

    This thing keeps getting worse.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-09/top-virus-doctor-says-high-blood-pressure-is-major-death-risk?srnd=premium

  6. jyl says:

    I am unclear why a payroll tax cut is the most effective way to help people who lose jobs, hours, tips and gigs. No job: no payroll tax anyway. Fewer hours: eliminating payroll tax will theoretically cushion 7% of the hit to the employee, no more (and does the employer get the other 7%?). Tips or gigs lost: payroll tax is irrelevant.

  7. Emptynester says:

    If USA runs a BIG deficit, who are the lenders (Federal Reserve, US citizens/companies or foreign parties) and how/will they be repaid or is it de facto money printing ( debt probably held forever by Federal Reserve)?

    It all washes out in the foreign exchange rates. If the USA does not want to jeopardize status as world’s premier reserve currency, then the USA needs to openly consider what other countries/currencies are doing in conjunction with our decision to run BIG deficits. The relatively of our actions to other countries/currencies impacts strength of USD.

    There are also serious future implications to be considered AT THE TIME deficit spending occurs. It should not be “spend it now and leave it to future generations to figure out how to repay the debt and deal with the fall out on the USD”. Are we responsible enough to leave a roadmap?

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