James Comey Got Whacked, The Question Is “Do We Care?”

It’s pretty clear at this point that when it comes to what counts as a “smoking gun” in the Donald Trump obstruction of justice saga (and in the attendant effort to prove that his associates colluded with the Kremlin), the President’s support base isn’t prepared to accept anything as “proof.”

Not to put too fine a point on it, but the evidence is overwhelming. Indeed, there’s so much evidence that the risk now is that the weary public, overwhelmed by the frantic pace of the news cycle, will fall victim to the Johnnie Cochran glove trick.

Here’s what we wrote earlier this year on that:

No longer is this a question of establishing enough coincidences to render those coincidences, well, to render them not coincidental, it’s now gotten to the point where there’s almost too much proof. That is, this is one of those rare cases where the sheer amount of incriminating evidence has accidentally created its own smoke screen.

He’s so guilty that we can’t even decide where we need to focus. It’s like the O.J. Simpson trial all over again.

And if we’re not careful, we’ll end up getting the same outcome.

We’ve got all the pieces to the puzzle, but there are so many of them that eventually, the public, in a desperate attempt to latch onto something it can wrap its head around, will fall for the old Johnnie Cochran glove trick. “Can’t wrap your head around how obviously terrible this all is? No problem. ‘If it doesn’t fit, you must acquit.’”

America needs to be really careful not to fall victim to information overload here.

More evidence = even more guilty. Period.

We can’t lose sight of that in the fog of partisan war. Put differently, we can’t get so fed up with the pace of the news cycle that mental fatigue causes us to gravitate towards some sleight of (black-gloved) hand promising a false sense of closure.

Because if we do, we’ll look up a few years from now and find Donald Trump and O.J. Simpson together on the golf course – where whoever hacked the DNC is hiding with whoever murdered Nicole Brown.

When people ask “where’s the proof,” the question from those of us who are sane is this: “where do you want me to start?”

Or maybe even better: “How much time do you have?”

The latest example of this is James Comey’s prepared testimony. The idea that what we got yesterday doesn’t constitute a clear effort to obstruct the FBI’s investigation into alleged collusion is laughable.

For instance, imagine that instead of Trump being accused of obstructing justice, a mafia underboss stands accused of racketeering, but the FBI agent investigating the case is generally viewed by the crime family to which the underboss belongs as a potentially valuable asset. Maybe they share information or coordinate on busting rival families, quid pro quos, etc.

One day, the capo invites the FBI agent investigating him and his family to dinner. At the last minute, the family is uninvited.

“You can bring the family next time,” the capo says to the FBI agent.

The first thing the capo says to the FBI agent after they sit down to dinner is this: “Do you want to stay alive?”

The FBI agent stammers and tries to explain that yes, he “loves his life.”

Next, the capo says “I need loyalty. I expect loyalty.”

There’s an awkward silence. The FBI agent says this: “You’ll always get my honesty.”

A couple of months later, the FBI agent is found dead in the trunk of a Lincoln.

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With that in mind, consider the following breakdown of Comey’s prepared remarks from Lawfare.

Via Lawfare

James Comey’s seven-page written statement, released by the Senate Intelligence Committee this afternoon in connection with Comey’s impending testimony tomorrow, draws no conclusions, makes no allegations, and indeed, expresses no opinions. It recounts, in spare and simple prose, a set of facts to which Comey is prepared to testify under oath tomorrow. Despite this sparseness, or maybe I should say because of it, it is the most shocking single document compiled about the official conduct of the public duties of any President since the release of the Watergate tapes.

Let me begin by walking through the document and annotating it a bit with those reasonable inferences that Comey leaves implicit but which a member of Congress, or a member of the public, should certainly consider. That is, let me start by considering in a narrow-bore way what some of these facts mean. Having done so, I’ll zoom out and try to make sense of the big picture as Comey takes the stand tomorrow. Comey proceeds in his statement chronologically. I am going to treat matters more thematically—which will mean bouncing around a bit in the document. The following comments will make more sense if readers first take the time to read the statement in its entirety, something I think it incumbent on citizens and other stakeholders in this society to do.

The first broad theme I want to highlight here is the effort on the part of the President to engage his FBI director in a relationship of patronage and the overwhelming discomfort this effort caused Comey. This is a theme I wrote about based on my own contemporaneous conversations with Comey, but to see it fleshed out across a number of different incidents is nevertheless jarring.

Comey is explicit that he saw Trump as attempting to enmesh him in an inappropriate relationship at the time. Of the January 27 dinner, for example, he writes that, “My instincts told me that the one-on-one setting, and the pretense that this was our first discussion about my position, meant the dinner was, at least in part, an effort to have me ask for my job and create some sort of patronage relationship.” And it’s hard to read this meeting any other way, at least not as Comey describes it. The President repeatedly asked for “loyalty,” was not satisfied with a promise of “honesty,” and the two compromised only awkwardly over the term “honest loyalty.” Trump specifically dangled the question of Comey’s keeping his job over his head. In their last conversation, on April 11, Comey reports that Trump emphasized to him that “I have been very loyal to you, very loyal; we had that thing you know.”

Throughout the document, Comey reports extreme discomfort with Trump’s behavior generally, and this aspect of it particularly. At that dinner, Comey felt compelled to tell the President that he was not “reliable” in the way politicians expect. He reports that the President’s efforts to engage him in a “patronage” relationship “concerned me greatly, given the FBI’s traditionally independent status in the executive branch.” He describes the interaction as a “very awkward conversation.”

Remarkably, even before that meeting, Comey was so uncomfortable with Trump that he had already begun writing memos recording every interaction he had with the President and sharing them with the FBI’s senior leadership. After their first meeting, on January 6, Comey recounts:

I felt compelled to document my first conversation with the President-Elect in a memo. To ensure accuracy, I began to type it on a laptop in an FBI vehicle outside Trump Tower the moment I walked out of the meeting. Creating written records immediately after one-on-one conversations with Mr. Trump was my practice from that point forward. This had not been my practice in the past.

Indeed, it contrasts sharply with his interactions with Obama, whom he admired a great deal. And he makes that point specifically:

I spoke alone with President Obama twice in person (and never on the phone) – once in 2015 to discuss law enforcement policy issues and a second time, briefly, for him to say goodbye in late 2016. In neither of those circumstances did I memorialize the discussions. I can recall nine one-on-one conversations with President Trump in four months – three in person and six on the phone.

In other words, Comey is saying here how little he trusted Trump from the beginning, and that Trump’s behavior caused him to behave differently than he had in the past.

This brings me to the second broad theme about Trump’s conduct, which is the serial investigative inquiries made directly of the FBI. The first one, on the occasion of the January 6 briefing about the Steele dossier, is probably forgivable. Comey had to brief the President-elect on what he described as “salacious and unverified” allegations. It’s not clear what precisely Trump said or did in response to the briefing, and, in fact, Comey suggests that he did not directly ask whether the FBI was investigating the matter. That said, and I’ll return to this point below, it was “based on President-Elect Trump’s reaction to that briefing” that Comey felt compelled to assure him that he was not personally the subject of “an open counter-intelligence case.” So that case is a little murky.

The pages of the testimony are laced, however, with examples of other inappropriate queries of the FBI director on investigative matters. There’s the conversation about General Michael Flynn; there is a subsequent inquiry on the Steele material; there are questions about when Comey was going to publicly state that Trump wasn’t personally under investigation.

It’s hard to express to people who are not steeped in federal law enforcement just how inappropriate these inquiries are, particularly when they involve an investigation in which the President has such deep and multifaceted personal stakes. No, they are not illegal. The President, after all, has constitutional authority to ask for whatever information he wants from his subordinates in the executive branch. But of course, the President also has the authority to give the State of the Union address in Latin and have it consist entirely of obscenities directed at the Speaker of the House. To people who know the norms of federal law enforcement, the conduct described here is closer to that end of the spectrum of presidential behavior than it is to the normal range.

Don’t take my word for that. At a recent event at the Federalist Society, I asked former Attorney General to President George W. Bush Michael Mukasey and former Obama White House Counsel Neil Eggleston whether they could imagine a conversation along the lines of Trump’s interaction with Comey over Flynn taking place between the two presidents they served and their top law enforcement officials regarding an ongoing investigation. As Josh Gerstein summarized in Politico,

Both men said they could not conceive of their bosses having the conversation Trump reportedly had with Comey in February, urging him to back away from any further investigation of former national security adviser Michael Flynn….

Asked if that could have happened under Bush, Mukasey said: “One word answer: No.” He later said he was aware of no such White House involvement in criminal cases or investigations during his tenure.

“The norm was observed,” the former AG said.

Eggleston said Obama’s White House had and generally adhered to a policy of not discussing investigations with people at the Justice Department.

“It would not have happened while I was in the White House,” the former White House counsel said. “We would not have been talking to the FBI director or attorney general about a specific investigative matter… That just would not happen.”

Comey was so concerned about these interactions that he specifically asked Attorney General Jeff Sessions to shield him from them:

I spoke with Attorney General Sessions in person to pass along the President’s concerns about leaks. I took the opportunity to implore the Attorney General to prevent any future direct communication between the President and me. I told the AG that what had just happened – him being asked to leave while the FBI Director, who reports to the AG, remained behind – was inappropriate and should never happen. He did not reply.

An overlapping but distinct theme here involve the incidents of substantive pressure the President placed on the FBI for specific investigative outcomes. The most upsetting example here is the pressure to drop the Flynn investigation, which Comey explicitly states he understood as political pressure for a particular substantive outcome. Comey reports:

The President then returned to the topic of Mike Flynn, saying, “He is a good guy and has been through a lot.” He repeated that Flynn hadn’t done anything wrong on his calls with the Russians, but had misled the Vice President. He then said, “I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.” I replied only that “he is a good guy.” . . . I had understood the President to be requesting that we drop any investigation of Flynn in connection with false statements about his conversations with the Russian ambassador in December.

But the Flynn conversation is not the only example of specific substantive pressure in the document. During the January 27 dinner, Comey recounts that Trump “said he was considering ordering me to investigate the [Steele dossier material] to prove it didn’t happen.” On phone calls both on March 30 and April 11, Trump asked Comey to “find a way to get it out that we weren’t investigating him” (March 30) and “‘get out’ that he is not personally under investigation” (April 11).

Let’s leave to another day whether anything the President did here amounts to any kind of obstruction of justice. It’s poisonous stuff to a rule of law society that requires that law enforcement not be simply an arm of political power.

Finally, there’s Comey’s clarification of what Trump appears to have meant when he wrote in his letter dismissing Comey that Comey informed him “on three separate occasions … that I am not under investigation.” I wrote about what those interactions may have consisted of some time back, arguing that it was simply inconceivable that Comey would have told the President his conduct was not at issue in any of the probes under way. Suffice it to say that the reality is rather closer to my hypotheses about what happened than it is to Trump’s characterization. Keep in mind, as I pointed out in that piece, that counter-intelligence investigations are subject specific; that is, they are focused on individuals, not on crimes. Comey makes this point in his statement as well, and it is critical to understanding these interactions.

The first incident occurred on January 6, when Comey briefed Trump on the salacious material in the Steele dossier. Comey reports:

Because the nature of the hostile foreign nation is well known, counterintelligence investigations tend to be centered on individuals the FBI suspects to be witting or unwitting agents of that foreign power. When the FBI develops reason to believe an American has been targeted for recruitment by a foreign power or is covertly acting as an agent of the foreign power, the FBI will “open an investigation” on that American and use legal authorities to try to learn more about the nature of any relationship with the foreign power so it can be disrupted.

In that context, prior to the January 6 meeting, I discussed with the FBI’s leadership team whether I should be prepared to assure President-Elect Trump that we were not investigating him personally. That was true; we did not have an open counter-intelligence case on him. We agreed I should do so if circumstances warranted. During our one-on-one meeting at Trump Tower, based on President-elect Trump’s reaction to the briefing and without him directly asking the question, I offered that assurance.

The second incident took place later that month, at the January 27 dinner, when Trump announced he was thinking of ordering Comey to prove the allegations false:

During the dinner, the President returned to the salacious material I had briefed him about on January 6, and, as he had done previously, expressed his disgust for the allegations and strongly denied them. He said he was considering ordering me to investigate the alleged incident to prove it didn’t happen. I replied that he should give that careful thought because it might create a narrative that we were investigating him personally, which we weren’t, and because it was very difficult to prove a negative.

The third incident took place during the March 30 phone call:

Then the President asked why there had been a congressional hearing about Russia the previous week – at which I had, as the Department of Justice directed, confirmed the investigation into possible coordination between Russia and the Trump campaign. I explained the demands from the leadership of both parties in Congress for more information, and that Senator Grassley had even held up the confirmation of the Deputy Attorney General until we briefed him in detail on the investigation. I explained that we had briefed the leadership of Congress on exactly which individuals we were investigating and that we had told those Congressional leaders that we were not personally investigating President Trump. I reminded him I had previously told him that. He repeatedly told me, “We need to get that fact out.”

Ironically, the document makes perfectly clear that Trump was aware that the investigation was touching people close to him in the campaign and his company, and that he was perfectly willing throw these people under bus if need be: “The President went on to say that if there were some ‘satellite’ associates of his who did something wrong, it would be good to find that out, but that he hadn’t done anything wrong and hoped I would find a way to get it out that we weren’t investigating him.”

Put simply, this emphatically does not amount to Trump’s blanket statement that he was assured multiple times that he was not under investigation. Trump might have been on solid ground in his letter firing Comey had he written that “I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that none of the investigations involving my campaign, my subordinates, or my companies at the present time involves an open counterintelligence case directed at me personally.” Somehow, however, that lacks the self-exculpating ring the President seems to have been going for.

So what does it all mean? We will learn more tomorrow, of course, when Comey is asked to expand on the points he makes in this document, when he is asked about incidents to which he makes no reference here, when he is asked about the circumstances of his firing, and when he is challenged by those senators who may be skeptical of his account. We will also learn more as we see which parts of this document, if any, the White House contests.

But I will make three general observations based on this document alone.

First, Comey is describing here conduct that a society committed to the rule of law simply cannot accept in a president. We have spent a lot of time on this site over seven years now debating the marginal exertions of presidential power and their capacity for abuse. Should the president have the authority to detain people at Guantanamo? Incinerate suspected terrorists with flying robots? Use robust intelligence authorities directed at overseas non-citizens? These questions are all important, but this document is about a far more important question to the preservation of liberty in a society based on legal norms and rules: the abuse of the core functions of the presidency. It’s about whether we can trust the President—not the President in the abstract, but the particular embodiment of the presidency in the person of Donald J. Trump—to supervise the law enforcement apparatus of the United States in fashion consistent with his oath of office. I challenge anyone to read this document and come away with a confidently affirmative answer to that question.

Second, we are about to see a full-court press against Comey. I don’t know what it will look like. But the attack instinct always kicks in when a presidency is under siege. And Trump has the attack instinct in spades even when he’s not under siege. It is important to remember what the stakes are here. They are not about whether Comey was treated fairly. They are not about whether you like him. They are not about whether he handled the Clinton email investigation in the highest traditions of the FBI or the Justice Department. They are not about leaks. The stakes here are about whether what Comey is reporting in this document are true facts and, if so, what we need as a political society to do about the reality that we have a president who behaves this way and seeks to use the FBI in this fashion. It is critical, in other words, that people not change the subject or get distracted when others try to do so.

Finally, it is also critical—though probably fruitless to say—that we eschew partisanship in the conversation. Tomorrow, this document will be the discussion text when Comey faces a committee that, warts and all, has handled the Russia matter to date in a respectable and honorably bipartisan fashion. It is not too much to ask that members put aside party and respond as patriots to the fact that the former FBI director will swear an oath that these facts are true—and was fired after these interactions allegedly took place by a man who then told Lester Holt that “when I decided to just do it [fire Comey], I said to myself … this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story,” and boasted to the Russians the day after dismissing Comey that “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

The question they—and we—all face is simple: Do we care?

 

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9 thoughts on “James Comey Got Whacked, The Question Is “Do We Care?”

  1. What the public has at this point are quite a few pieces of a very large puzzle. Enough information to raise questions and concerns about Trump’s personal involvement in the Russia scandal, but far short of quantum needed to draw any final conclusions or lead to impeachment. Trump’s responses to the unfolding drama are damning, but not conclusive. Much more hard evidence is needed before Trump can be tossed out of the White House.

    The “glove moment” in the O.J. trial was part of a larger defense narrative – The LAPD is racist and they framed OJ because he was a black man married to a white woman. The Trump surrogates are taking a page out of Cochran’s playbook – the Deep State and the media are conspiring to take Trump down because he is challenging the status quo. They can’t win, but that won’t stop them from trying.

  2. I’m outside your country so barely give a phvck, but the objective posts elsewhere say it’s unflattering but nothing remotely criminal. Move on already. The economy, which is fragile, is more important than petty domestic politics and deep state power push backs. Gee it’ll be so much better after 2030 when the leadership torch has been fully passed to China and America is left behind as marginal as the UK today.

    • Not sure how it’s done in your country but we always move on, just at a snail’s pace. I’m from the Cleveland area. It once was a manufacturing juggernaut and the fifth largest city in the US. Even after bleeding industry for decades (first to the south and then to foreign countries) and suffering the 2008 financial crisis, Cleveland still boasted two, of the largest twenty-five banks in the US.

      My point? Just as we waited for the inevitable “passing of the torch” to the amazing Japanese economic machine, we wait for its passing to China and its crazy, state-manufactured capitalism. Not in my lifetime and probably not yours.

      In the meantime, Lil’ Mussolini must go!

  3. I believe there is sufficient evidence to remove Trump from the WH when you take all the information we have and will have when a complete investigation is completed. Comey’s testimony clearly shows Trump’s intent to eliminate Flynn from being a primary player. There is clear evidence that Trump was advised by more than one person about the problems surrounding Flynn and why Trump should not include him in his new staff at the WH. Trump ignored those warnings and probably felt he could control Flynn because of them! There is adequate information and photos that prove Flynn was close enough to Putin to be seated next to him at a dinner as well as a money trail and Flynn’s admission of taking money that was illegal for him to take and then not disclose. Now, couple that with Comey’s sworn testimony. And don’t forget Trump even flat out told Lester Holt he fired him because he wanted the Russia matter silenced. Trump is a rat.

    Additionally, we all know there is a whole bunch of other data being investigated, several people very close to Trump with factual connections to Russia and Russian banks, even Trump’s own comments that contradict Trump’s own comments! I have confidence that he will be impeached and possibly could end up charged with Treason.

    None of the above include his mental stability. That man is bat shit crazy!

    – Murphy

  4. I guess I feel like this is exactly what I expected. There was some stuff in there that says that Trump doesn’t respect or even understand the separation of powers and why they are important, nor did he understand exactly what he was doing when he fired Comey. The fact that he blundered into that one like a dog with his head stuck in a trashcan should be enough to tell anyone who can be swayed that he doesn’t possess the facilities to be running the country.

    All of that aside, none of what Comey said makes Trump a criminal. I understand why people think he obstructed justice, I just don’t think that it clears the bar for such a case legally. I hate to say this, because I feel like Trump might, might get away with this shit just because he’s such an oaf. The big thing that people need to keep an eye on is the special prosecutor, who will undoubtedly use every asset at his disposal to turn people. Some people have advocated for an independent commission a la the 9/11 commission, but I don’t think the R’s are going to go for it yet.

    But, as a very good friend of mine once said, ‘The truth will out’. I believe it will.

  5. Folks, it is not just one thread that will hang the man. It is the whole ball of threads. He admitted to newsman Holt he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation; and couple that with the clear truthful tale from Comey about the same issues; and couple that with the deceit by Flynn and his lies; and couple that with Trump was told and warned about Flynn’s secrets and Trump ignored it all; and couple that with photos of Flynn sitting with Putin; and Flynn receiving money and lying about it all and that’s just the Flynn thread!

    There is also the money thread that runs thru more than one foreign bank and I also believe at least one US bank and that thread gets tangled with real estate deals with Russia for property in US (laundering?) Several other Trump guys with Russian connections, business and marital ties. It is not a coincidence that Manafort, Flynn, Bannon, Carter, Trump’s lawyer Cohen, and more, all have some connection with Russia/Ukraine! Kushner and his huge debt problem and the secret communication with Russia. Trump’s two sons have made public comments about Russian money for golf courses and investments in Trump deals. Ivanka vacationing in Coatia with Putin’s girlfriend (who is x-wife of Rupert Murdoch). Not to mention violation of emoluments clause by every single member of the Trump family. Enough? There is more.

    If everything that has been said about how good Mueller is at these involved and tangled webs of deceit, then he will put it all together. Just get this scum out of the White House.

    – Murphy

  6. Makes you wonder why there wasn’t as much zeal in pursuing real crimes that actually occurred, obstructing justice by deleting emails from Hillary’s homegrown server after Congress demanded access to it, and then attempting to wipe the hard drive for good measure.

    Intent? No, hell no. Not in the irrational liberal thought process.

    • so sick of people – like you – throwing in Hillary when you have no other defense of trump. I can rant against Hillary and all the ‘gossip’ for years BUT I also know when that has to stop because she has been investigated probably more than any other politician in history and there is no crime, just gossip and uninformed people who spread it and more uniformed people who hear it, believe it, spread it again.

      Are you also so far up trump’s ass that you believe Rubio’s father was involved in the assassination of JFK? Or do you believe that Obama was born in Kenya? Hey, this would be so much easier….. just check out this list of hundreds of LIES spread by Trump: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

      – Murphy

      • one thing I would add there is that this…

        “someone else did something bad one time”

        …does not exonerate someone from something bad they themselves did.

        it’s like saying “yes, I murdered that person, but then again, look at how many home burglaries there were last year.”

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