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‘Unquestionably Sponsored By Iran’: The Saudis Have Some Debris They’d Like You To Scope Out

“We are working right now to share the information that we have".

“We are working right now to share the information that we have".
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17 comments on “‘Unquestionably Sponsored By Iran’: The Saudis Have Some Debris They’d Like You To Scope Out

  1. Jan Veenstra

    Saudi civilian targets were hit. Interestingly, still not a single report on human casualties. The Saudi civilian targets in Yemen have killed and maimed thousands of civilians.

    If one really has to chose between Shia Iran and Sunni Saudi, the choice isn’t very difficult.

    • Well, of course. But that’s not what’s being questioned here. It’s not a matter of “did the US back the wrong horse a long time ago?” or “is MBS a butcher responsible for untold human suffering in Yemen”? Obviously, the answer to those questions is “Yes” and “Yes”.

      This is a simple question of “Did MBS blow up 50% of his own oil production in order to engineer a pretext for the US or the Saudis to strike Iran?” If you’re going to answer “Yes” to that question, then you have to explain why the Houthis keep taking credit for it, and why Tehran keeps praising the attack even as they deny they were directly responsible.

      The only way to reconcile those things is to posit an increasingly complicated conspiracy theory, which, while always possible, seems unlikely.

      • Next quarter’s EPS is gonna fetch ARAMCO a fat IPO valuation. Just in time to get all their money up front and pass the peak oil risk onto the unwitting investment public

        • except that by most accounts, this reduced the value of the Aramco IPO by highlighting the risk of attacks on the company’s crown jewel. that’s coming from some of the banks who are actually tipped to run it.

    • Lance Manly

      Sunni Saudi

      KSA has a sizable (20%) and highly repressed Shia minority https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_Islam_in_Saudi_Arabia Strangely right in the middle of its oil producing region, the legendary Ghawar.

  2. “Sponsored by Iran” seems a different and weaker claim than “carried out by Iran”.

  3. Real answer is I think this is all an attempt to muddy the water…which by the way is a tactic typical of all the players mentioned above ….including US

  4. The US should not choose between Sunni and Shia. We should play them off against one another to our best advantage. Neither of those religions, as practiced by their leading governmental proponents in the Middle East, share our values at all.

  5. Scotty@thehelm

    Re: “share the information that we have from the data, from the chips”

    Not sure how intact those chips will be, but I assume the cooling fans protected them and provided great stability during impact. The flight path data may explain why the holes in those domes seemed to be from the West?

  6. Exercise extreme skepticism regarding possible false flag of “evidence” and media spin purporting that this attack was launched from Iran. Assuming Houthis did launch from Yemen, then Iran is no more to blame for the attack than the USA is is to blame for the entire humanitarian crisis in Yemen executed with USA weaponry provided to the Saudi Kingdom. It is called a proxy war.

    • I am also curious to know extent of the damage. Zero up close photos seen by myself so far. Anyone else see? Suspect not huge warheads & more smoke than damage. Perhaps the images of 4 streams of smoke is most persuasive method of exaggerating the damage done to suit western media agenda?

      • Also amazing that Iranian drones appear more accurate than USA cruise missiles launched with less success against Syrian airfield. Are supposed to believe that Iran has better technology? How many drones launched and how many did what kind of damage?

  7. If Pompeo had other evidence that the missiles came from Iran but couldn’t elaborate, it could mean that the eyes in the sky picked up the heat trail but are to remain unknown entities to the Iranians, Russians etc.. That would normally mean there should have been an early warning and possibly an immediate response. That didn’t happen. Maybe it wasn’t our eye-in-the-sky?

    • If you saw heat trails headed south what would you have recommended? If notified what would/could the Saudis have done differently?

      • Lots of big “IFs” that fit agenda of aggression on Iran. Ask why Iran would directly attack SA when USA neocons desperately look for excuses to attack that country. Same conundrum of why would Assad “gas his own people” after Obama declared it a red line not to be crossed. There are no USA “humanitarian wars”. They are planned strategic wars that use the media to manufacture consent. Be suspicious of claims that the facts can not be shown due to “national security” concerns. Intelligence services are known purveyors of misinformation/propaganda.

  8. Pompeo is an ass-hat.

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