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Trump Folds, Delays Tariff Hike On Key Consumer Goods Until December

"Certain products are being removed from the tariff list".

"Certain products are being removed from the tariff list".
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13 comments on “Trump Folds, Delays Tariff Hike On Key Consumer Goods Until December

  1. Quick question for Attorney General Fred Flintstone — is it possible to indict a sitting President for inside trading and market manipulation? I am guessing no.

    • Estonian Hooker

      No shit — not only does it seem likely that trump is playing the markets for private gain, getting away with murder — but I totally believe China is playing the manipulation game with trump. Instead of banks front running SEC & DOJ rules, we have a president jumping in and out of markets like a Estonian hooker going from bed to bed, like clockwork. This is amazingly pathetic to watch, but perhaps one needs to not fight the reality of irrational behavior? Somehow that doesn’t feel right and seems unsustainable!

  2. Dana Newman

    Cell phones, laptop computers, video game consoles, certain toys, computer monitors, and certain items of footwear and clothing are all absolutely necessary for our health, safety, and national security.

    Dogpatch gottta find somethin’ necessary, don’t they?

    MARRYIN’ SAM: How about this genuine Dogpatch alarm clock?
    DR. FINSDALE: How do it work?
    MARRYIN’ SAM: You sets the clock. When the alarm rings and you reaches a hand to shut it off, a gopher comes outta this little hole and bites yo’ wrist. As you reaches fo’ a stick to whomp him, you rubs against this little button, this hand comes down and bashes you on the head, puttin’ you back to sleep!
    DR. FINSDALE: But if you go back to sleep, you’re late for work; if you’re late for work you lose your job; you lose your job you’re unemployed; you’re unemployed the government’s got to support you.
    MARRYIN’ SAM: You gets the idea.

  3. Sure must be tough staying up all night writing all these posts and have Trumpy Man come out in the morning and deal you a hand from the bottom of the deck…. Wonder just how long this erratic behavior can last before like Chicken Little predicted the sky falls ???

    • Harvey Cotton

      It is ceaselessly amazing how mechanical deleveraging CTAs in a poor liquidity environment with no market depth because the frat of Delta Alpha Gamma flipped negative on hedges or whatever goes away the second anybody says boo. The market can rocket 2+% any day on any pretence from the Administration.

      • Question Harvey…..? Do you suppose the ” this time is different ” crowd is seizing on the mechanical deleveraging for a core part of their belief… I find it hard to predict and try to develop actionable ideas… I stay in fringe areas of the market where liquidity crisis is minimized…. Charlie M really seems to help with this Gamma flipping thinking but even He seems to get caught off balance as I perceive some of his content..

  4. China has every reason to insist that all tariffs be lifted before serious negotiations resume. It will be interesting to see what the yuan peg comes in at today.

  5. I wonder how much of the $300BN is represented by “health, safety, national security” and “cell phones, laptop computers, video game consoles, certain toys, computer monitors, and certain items of footwear and clothing”?

    My guesstimate is about half ($141BN),

    That’s from Census Bureau data. I counted all cellphones ($71BN), everything related to drugs/medical/lab ($9BN), 60% of computers ($28BN), a small amount of computer accessories and TV/video ($15BN), and about 1/5 of all toys/apparel/footwear ($19BN). Plenty of guesses there.

    • Oh, I just saw List 4B. I assume someone on the Street will be doing more precise calcs. Interesting oppty to see tariff impact on certain stocks. E.g. on a quick scan List 4B does not seem to include sports footwear >$6.50/pr, if that’s right, maybe that’s why NKE isn’t doing much. But it includes lots of cheap plastic stuff, and maybe that’s why DLTR and HAS is moving.

  6. I will say one thing for the administration. They try to think things though. It’s unfortunate that their motivations and actions are so transparent. They lose any little integrity that they have left. They must be profiting handsomely from all of this volatility in the markets.

    I guess the delay until December will give the administration more time to hammer down on the Fed for those few extra rate cuts, given that the lastest CPI data might postpone the Sept. rate cut. Then resolve the trade war over the next 4 months, low rates, booming stock market, and perhaps the election will go well……

    Hopefully, we still live in a democracy and the voters will see through this mess.

  7. Any chance this is “market” cover for an invasion of Hong Kong?

  8. strategy oracle

    What-if, in the big picture, looking forward, what would it take for bond yields to explode upward and the equity market to crash? How could trump manipulate the market, to actually make things better? He’s way behind with employment creation (versus Obama) way behind with stock market growth, housing stalling, markets near turmoil, etc., thus how does our racist leader make America Great, or as it looks more and more, how will trump destroy the American economy and get re-elected>

  9. monkfelonious

    Shouldn’t we not get it by now? It’s all become a ‘Rope-a-Dope’. Yes, yes it’s hard to tell who’s Foreman or that other guy.

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