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As Warren Calls For Impeachment Proceedings, Trump Cries ‘Treason’, Romney Wants To Vomit

"The correct process for exercising that authority is impeachment".

"The correct process for exercising that authority is impeachment".
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6 comments on “As Warren Calls For Impeachment Proceedings, Trump Cries ‘Treason’, Romney Wants To Vomit

  1. Rasna says:

    Romney better be careful. Trump and his homies will take his lunch money and then roll up on his girlfriend after school. Ain’t no way any of this gets any traction. The Dems don’t know how to play hard ball like the Repugs and the country voters are in a stupor that’s been coming on for years. Trumps already shoppin’ for a black Escalade with blacked out windows and gangster spinners for 2021.

    • MoreEqual says:

      Given how damning the report is when you actually read the thing, I think that there might be a pretty significant ‘Richard Burr’ effect take hold–where individual Republicans don’t want to be the ones getting their names marked down for sticking their necks out for Trump, like Burr so clearly does in the report. There will probably be a period, while this all gets sorted out, where many Repubs (especially Congressional leadership) don’t strongly stick up for Trump, but also where many don’t voice any strong disapproval (a la Susan Collins’s milquetoast statement yesterday). Most of the visible (i.e. on TV) Repub support right now is being voice as “lets just move on from this, it’s over” not “Trump did nothing wrong.” Classic political hedging.

      This sets the stage for a period of significant political meta-stability, where the Repubs seem very united toeing the party line–seem very stable–but will only take a small displacement, a crack, to make them bolt for the exits and jump ship.

      So this idea of “Trump and his homies” rolling on non-believers definitely feeds into the notion that the Republican party is stable and united, and won’t be affected by any of this. But this is really meta-stability–most Repubs are ignorantly malicious, not stupid–and I think that there is definitely a chance that this thing gains traction.

      • I’m not sure where the crack could form in the GOP. For Nixon, the crack came because republican voters flooded the representatives with “enough is enough” letters, but today’s Trump base will never turn against Tiny. Remember that he could kill someone, and nothing would change for those voters.

        Having said that, Tiny’s taxes could be the equivalent of Nixon’s tapes. Maybe there is a hero in the tax department willing to leak them (like Deep Throat). They certainly will not be released before 2020 as long as trump can find lawyers to work for him.

        • MoreEqual says:

          Yeah the taxes are an interesting question because the law as I understand it sets up a dialogue between the IRS commissioner and Chairman Neal–Trump’s lawyers really shouldn’t be part of the process. But it looks to be a pretty cut-and-dry issue, even if it goes to the courts.

          First, the transmission from the IRS commissioner to the Chairman of the House Ways and Means is governed by 26 USC 6103, the commissioner “shall” furnish the returns. This whole question about proper legislative purpose and the GOP talking point about whether Neal’s request is actually a pre-textual move to hide a purely partisan purpose shouldn’t hold water when the issue is presented to a court. If the court finds that Neal is within his constitutional boundaries in making the request, then the court usually won’t look into the legislative purpose and whether there are any hidden pre textual motives. There is further pressure on the IRS Commissioner, as 26 USC 7214 says he could get 5 years in prison for “failing to perform the duties of his office.”

          Second, the transmission of the returns to the public is a more difficult issue. Ironically, the GOP might have dug their own grave on this. A few years back they were feeling some ‘conservative-oppression’ and thought that the IRS was discriminating against certain Tea Party groups and slow walking their tax exempt status. The then-Chairman of the House Ways and Means Dave Camp voted to publicly expose the returns of liberal groups to show the unequal treatment: “Look, 6103 provides for this,” Camp said, according to a transcript of the closed session that was later made public. “The statute provides that when the committee, in its oversight role, finds egregious information, we have the authority to release confidential taxpayer information.” (https://www.accountingtoday.com/articles/how-to-make-trumps-tax-returns-public-the-gop-may-have-cleared-a-path)

          Of course, if and when the Democrats point to this precedent, Camp will probably be called a RINO and a shill for the libs. Nevertheless, the precedent is there.

          I do agree, though, that this thing could take a while. But the above makes the case for hastening that process.

          • incidentally, i don’t think i’ve ever said “every man, woman and child in America has the absolute right to see Donald Trump’s tax returns”. i don’t even know that i would agree with that statement. the main point, i think, is that voters decided the House should flip to Democrats and now, Ways and Means says their oversight requires a look at Trump’s returns. that seems pretty cut and dry. i think the GOP and Trump are creating a straw man with this “dangerous precedent for Americans” line.

  2. H,

    You make it sound like panic.

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