‘Where Does One Go When Everything Sells Off?’

The QT trade will naturally, even necessarily, be a mirror image of the QE trade. Just beneath the surface of that apparent truism lies the most disconcerting question investors are compelled to ponder when confronted with the prospect of stimulus withdrawal: What if everything sells off simultaneously? In fact, so-called "diversification desperation" has been the story of 2022. Q1 was among the worst quarters on record for 60/40 portfolios and as the simple figure (below) shows, virtually not

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9 thoughts on “‘Where Does One Go When Everything Sells Off?’

  1. where does one go when everything sells off?

    One goes to cash or vol in that circumstance; the trick is in the timing. Have we come to a juncture where timing the market may be rational? I don’t relish the thought.

  2. H-Man,

    I believe as you do, we have not seen the bottom. So managing a portfolio in these troubled times requires one to trade volatility for hedging or speculation purposes. The VIX is currently the barometer of the market which has climbed into 30’s —– when fear turns to capitulation —–it will move into 40’s or 50’s or higher. Right now it is moving north and I see that trend continuing. So if you want to hedge a portfolio of equities or speculate, you will buy UVXY or TVIX call options on a timeline and strike price you feel comfortable with. Alternatively, you simply buy the ETF. If the market continues downward, either position will be in the money which will ameliorate the pain on the portfolio or pocket a profit if done for speculation. But don’t be greedy. Because………

    My only caveat about trading volatility is that when the bottom arrives. the VIX will drop like a rock, no matter how high ti has ascended and it will do so quickly, reverting to the mean.

    So trade accordingly if you want to stay in the market and reduce your losses. You don’t have to be a deer in the headlights.

  3. “While central bank actions and the market environment create optimal conditions where every asset class makes money at the same time, the natural question one has to ask is: What to expect after that?”, Kocic wrote. “If unwind of the stimulus is its mirror image, where does one go when everything sells off?”

    If we look at 30-year USTs as a proxy for pure duration, it’s been selling off since March 2020 (when the 30-year yield bottomed at 1%), which is when the latest round of stimulus was introduced, i.e. the selloff in long bonds are far more advanced that any other asset class, so it might be the first to turnaround during a withdrawal of stimulus?

  4. Cash is not edgy, creative, or fun to talk about, and assures a single digit negative real return, but has one large advantage, which is that it is unavailable to the large majority of institutional investors who are forced by mandate or financial incentive to stay fully invested or close.

    The other advantage is that at “the bottom”, it is a lot easier to buy bargains with cash than to sell one’s big loser to buy someone else’s big loser.

  5. For the past few years in the markets, movement up or down seems to be happening extremely quickly. Until supply chains normalize and commodities are not excessively strained, I expect to keep getting hit with rapid fire movements.
    I am a glass half full person, eventually we will get past this. Fortunately, I don’t have to sell.