What Kind Of Crook Is Donald Trump?

"But what crime? Can anybody identify the crime?"


Excerpted from a longer piece by Susan Hennessey and Benjamin Wittes for Lawfare/Foreign Policy

Over the past couple of weeks, the prevailing meme among some Donald Trump-defending reporters and commentators has shifted in a subtle but important way. For months, such folks have hewed to the line that no evidence had yet surfaced of “collusion” between the Trump campaign and Russian efforts to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Now, they say, collusion wouldn’t be such a big deal if it did occur — certainly not illegal.

Take Fox News. In discussing a reported grand jury investigation, Brit Hume confidently declared: “But what crime? Can anybody identify the crime? Collusion, while obviously it would be alarming and highly inappropriate for the Trump campaign, of which there is no evidence by the way, of colluding with the Russians. It’s not a crime.”

Sean Hannity made a similar point:

What was the collusion? That maybe somebody in the Trump campaign talked to somebody in Russia because Russia supposedly had the information that Hillary Clinton had destroyed on her server when she committed a felony and tried to cover up her crimes? And that they might say as a Trump campaign representative, “Wow, you have that? Tell the American people the truth. Let them see it themselves, release it.” Is that a crime, to say “release it”? To show the truth?

Earlier, Gregg Jarrett took to the network to assert the same: “Collusion is not a crime. Only in antitrust law. You can collude all you want with a foreign government in an election. There is no such statute.”

There are two important points to make about this new conservative argument. The first is that it seems to have conveniently appeared only a few days before the emergence of some actual evidence of collusion — the first such evidence we have seen so far. The second is that the argument actually has some legal merit — though whether it’s legally correct depends on facts yet to surface.

The new evidence of collusion is far from conclusive. But it’s fair to say that the public evidence last week got a lot stronger that people in the Trump campaign — or people on the periphery of the campaign, at least — were not simply passive beneficiaries of Russian intelligence efforts.

On June 29, the Wall Street Journal reported that prior to the 2016 election, a Republican opposition researcher named Peter Smith attempted “to obtain emails he believed were stolen from Hillary Clinton’s private server, likely by Russian hackers.”


The Journal published a follow-up story the next day, on Friday, regarding documents that Smith sent to others he was attempting to recruit to the effort. One of the documents names Trump campaign advisors — including Flynn, Steve Bannon, Kellyanne Conway, Sam Clovis, and others — as being involved in the effort.

On Lawfare Friday evening, the original recipient of that document, information security expert Matt Tait, elaborated on his bizarre experience with Smith.

Tait’s account itself contains a number of remarkable points.


Is all this the smoking gun in the Trump-Russia investigation? No. It definitely moves the collusion ball down the field, especially given the corroboration — at least to some degree — by independent intelligence collection. But it also forces people to scratch their collective heads and ponder the new Fox News talking point that collusion isn’t really that big a deal. If all this is true, one might ask, so what?

In order to understand the answer, it’s necessary to break down the term “collusion” a bit.


It may seem absurd that it could be possible to collaborate with a foreign intelligence service in its efforts to interfere with a U.S. election by coaxing the release of stolen emails without violating any law. But it’s not that absurd. There are plenty of activities that might be highly inappropriate and politically consequential but do not violate any criminal law. After all, if the actor seeking the information were the New York Times, not a shadowy group of Republican political operatives, we’d call it journalism.

At the same time, it’s also easy to imagine activities that fall within the colloquial meaning of collusion that would actually be criminal. So it’s worth considering whether there’s a more precise legal taxonomy, other than “collusion,” to discuss the situation at hand.

Former FBI Director James Comey, in his congressional testimony announcing the investigation, used a different word: “coordination.” This word is more precise in some respects, but it also does not necessarily convey illegality. There is, after all, no crime of “coordination” either. Coordination, of course, does not even need to be secret. And neither, most particularly, does “cooperation.” Indeed, the public evidence of at least tacit cooperation between the Trump campaign and the Russians is overwhelming and requires no investigation to prove.

Recall, after all, that Trump overtly and publicly called on Russia to obtain Clinton’s emails multiple times. In a July 27, 2016 news conference, Trump said, “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”


So if collusion is not, in and of itself, a crime, and cooperation and even secret coordination are not either — at least not without more evidence — what are the possible crimes here?

One possibility, of course, is that the Fox pundits are right and there were no crimes — that the underlying investigation really is predominantly a counterintelligence matter and nothing more.


But there are also areas of criminal law that any responsible prosecutor would want to examine as evidence of collusion or coordination begins to emerge — and examine with specific and granular reference to facts that are not yet known to the public or maybe even to the investigators themselves.

For example, the law of conspiracy covers agreements to engage in future crimes; an agreement to commit a crime, combined with some overt step toward committing it, is itself a crime. Then there is solicitation, which is the attempt to induce another to commit a crime. And there is clearly underlying criminal activity in the instances of Trump-Russia cooperation we already know about: Violations of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act certainly took place when the DNC computers were hacked, and laws were certainly broken when large volumes of emails were stolen, too.


There are other areas of law, too. Normally, we evaluate efforts to coordinate with or assist foreign intelligence services under the rubric of espionage — though that typically involves giving information to the foreign power, not helping the foreign power distribute it to others. While there’s no indication that happened here, investigators are always interested in both information flows and money flows when foreign intelligence services have relationships with Americans in positions of power. Moreover, many such relationships with foreign governments, to avoid criminal liability, require disclosures under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, which the Trump campaign team seems not to have contemporaneously filed. And, of course, anyone who tries to hide collusion or coordination by lying about it to investigators commits a crime in doing so.

At the moment, there simply aren’t enough facts to make any kind of judgment regarding anyone’s criminal conduct. So for the time being, we suspect that special counsel Robert Mueller’s team is more interested in assembling facts than in reaching any conclusions regarding what sort of collusion or coordination would be actionable under what sort of law.

The key point, for present purposes, is that collusion, in and of itself and to the extent it took place, is a political problem, not a legal one. The president will not have to answer for collusion as such in any court. His legal problem, rather, will arise — if it ever arises — only once we know the manner of any collusion and how that activity maps onto the criminal code. Either way, Trump may have to answer to the country if the evidence shows he was willing to do business with an adversary foreign intelligence service to release dirt on a domestic political opponent. Disloyalty of that sort may well be a crime in the eyes of the president’s fellow citizens, if not under the letter of the law.


6 comments on “What Kind Of Crook Is Donald Trump?

  1. Definitions. it’s all about definitions. Red Herring: something that is or is intended to be misleading or distracting.

    If Fox or some other con starts off with a misleading proposition, you end up being misled.

    Collusion. A noun. There are no such crime. Merely a label of no significance. Call it collusion, claim there is none, and therefore there’s no crime. Red Herring.

    To focus on the hacking: If Russian agents hacked into computers in the US as part of a design to facilitate Trump’s election in 2016, and as part of that design, Trump individually or by and through his agents, confederates or co-conspirators took overt steps to further and/or aid or abet the Russians in their design, then all of them are potentially criminally liable for having violated Federal (18 U.S. Code §1030 et seq.) and state felony hacking laws in the various states where the computers were located.

    This Intercept article using a leaked top-secret National Security Agency document, provides a window into what the mechanics of the Russian hacking looked like and an indication of some of the states that may have been impacted by the Russian hacking.

  2. David Marilley

    If some Russian fertilizer dealer pays way more than my property is worth and then his plane is showing up next to mine throughout the campaign, and if the property was soon demolished after purchase, then I think somebody should tell the whole story, especially the part about arms length transactions. And if Eric brags about Russian sources of funds a few years ago, and today there is no such thing, then that conflict should be resolved. How did Al Cappone end up in jail? Collusion might be the wrong emphasis.

    • Fox might as well have called it cruising. There’s no evidence of Trump cruising with the Russians, and even if there was evidence of Trump cruising with the Russians, it’s not a crime. Well, that’s right. I can agree with that as well. Fox truly is one of the best reality TV shows around.

      Doe anyone know what % of Fox audience believes that the moon landing took place in a studio in Atlanta?; that Area 54 in N.M., houses most but not all of the alien visitors to our planet?; believe WMDs still remain in Iraq?; are convinced Trump won the popular vote by 3,000,000 million?; and, that the Russians did not attempt to interfere with the 2016 election?

      • shadonoz

        The trouble is: they vote.

      • Anonymous

        My psycho ex-friend that freaked out on me the other day — I wrote about it here — he said every day the Russians interfering in our election was totally fake news. AND that Trump did actually win popular vote due to all the illegal votes they counted for her! And the big news….. he didn’t even go vote because he was certain Hillary would win anyway. Didn’t even vote and fighting like a crazy man.

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