Bonds, Bessent And Buffoons

Thank Scott Bessent. Or, if you're a junior journo condemned to writing market wraps nobody's going to read on Black Friday, you can just cite "month-end position squaring amid holiday-thinned trading." (All that copy's just boilerplate bulls-it. Smart-sounding gibberish. None of it means anything.) However you want to go about framing it, this was the best week for bonds since the early-August growth scare. Headed into the early close for Treasurys, 10-year US yields were down ~20bps for t

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17 thoughts on “Bonds, Bessent And Buffoons

  1. As I said in 2016, we will probably be ok unless we have an emergency, then covid hit…..

    The vulnerable will suffer, especially undocumented immigrants, ukraine, taiwan and lower and lower middle class Americans….

    1. Hard to put odds on this sort of thing, but which seems more plausible: i) an unknown virus emerging from wild animal markets, or bio labs
      perhaps, in a secondary city in China causing a pandemic in the US and globally, or ii) a known virus already endemic in wild birds, domestic poultry, and dairy cows that is causing widespread infections among dairy workers and being distributed commercially in raw milk causing a pandemic in the US and globally?

      Strictly speaking, we don’t really know the probability of H5 mixing with human influenza in the upcoming flu season and developing both human transmission (not previously had) and human lethality (often previously had). And, as our incoming Secretary of Defense so wisely says, since you can’t see viruses, you don’t need to believe in them. Or as our next head of Health and Human Services says, skip the vaccines, drink raw milk. Let’s not forget our new NIH director, who says lock down the elderly and expose kids, let the pandemic burn out. Or, for that matter, our current CDC director, who hasn’t said much about avian influenza at all.

      In other words, the H5 pandemic will be a complete surprise.

  2. Laughing to the bank.

    Had a conversation in a bar, me with La Croix, he with beer and a wife to be on the arm. We were talking about EV’s. She was asking me questions. Then at one point he started bullying me with statements. Farmer against engineer about electric vehicles. I an EV owner and former large projects manager in energy space.

    At one point he told me that the EV would lose me money. I told him the fuels savings would pay for the car. I also said I would be happy when I went to the bank.

    He was said at one point he will ‘NEVER have a battery powered tractor.’

    Me, A little cocky by now, ‘ yes you will in 15 years and charge it up with solar.’

    He, ’15 years, NEVER.’

    Me, ‘yes you will pay through the nose for diesel for 15 years then get an electric tractor.’

    He, ‘I do not trust you. I trust (The orange one) the businessman who just got elected.’

    Me, ‘6 bankrupties, turned a large pile of money into a small pile of money.’ (OK I do not know how many bankruptcies the bankruptcy king had. more bluster)

    He, ‘Shut up you and your electric vehicles, sit down and shut up.’

    Me, I shut up and just sat there at the bar while he ordered one more and guzzled it.

    As he got up to go I said ‘thank you for sharing your life with me.’ Prior to this he was telling me how to grow rice and how to watch the plants to know what to do. Not that I will ever grow rice, but he impressed me as a person who knew his business. Even if he had misplaced his loyalties.

    Now I know there is the hydrogen technical debate which is based on a carrier fluid to carry hydrogen around in a cartridge from which you fuel your vehicle. However you are now dependent on a fuel supplier who is not motivated to save you money. Your alternative is to buy solar panels and a big battery from which you charge your vehicle every night with no need for a fuel supplier. Which do you think will be lower cost?

    I will be laughing to the bank.

    1. Jeffrey Epstein is said to have thought that Trump could not read a spreadsheet. Trump had the same person doing his business books throughout and had Munchin as secretary of treasury for the full term.
      Bessent may have a little more job security than people suspect.

  3. Bessent told his Key Square clients early this year that, in his “differentiated” view, Trump won’t actually impose significant tariffs or pursue policies that will cause a strong dollar or higher long term rates, but will instead focus on de-regulation, lower energy prices / “energy independence”, a “US manufacturing renaissance”, extending the 2016 tax cuts, and “fixing the immigration crisis”.

    Presumably he shared those views with Trump and whatever he heard did not discourage him from successfully fighting for the job.

    This is, essentially, the predominant market view: most of the potentially harmful things Trump said he’ll do, he won’t actually do, and some of the potentially helpful things he said, he will actually do. A win-win, for both the one and the other hand.

    Looking at various industries’ stock prices, and excluding some meme names, it seems to me that the market is not broadly discounting a major increase in tariffs, or a major trade retaliation from other countries, or a major reduction in the immigrant workforce.

    No reason, presumably, for Trump to be stacking his appointees with the hardest-line trade warriors and hawkiest China hawks. Must be all coincidence.

    1. Every day, it seems, the win-win market consensus has more pronouncements from Trump that it has to rationalize a way to not discount. It’s just a negotiating tactic. He’s just playing to his base. Only a tenth of that will ever happen.

      There was the 25% tariffs on Mexico and Canada and an additional 10% on China unless they stop fentanyl and migrants from entering the US. Price reaction suggests the market is highly confident these tariffs will never happen.

      Now there is the 100% tariffs on BRIC countries unless they cease using other than the USD for trade. I think that price reaction will probably suggest the market is similarly confident this will never happen.

      It’s early days, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a US President, not a lame duck, progress so quickly toward losing credibility on a major issue.

      Is this lost on Trump? I imagine his cabinet of trade warriors will make sure it is not.

      No-one wants to be seen as screaming loudly while having a little twig and a big wig. So once in office, what are the odds that Trump decides to demonstrate that his stick is big and hard? It will be interesting to see how the “you know he won’t actually do any of that” investors rationalize that.

      1. Well put JL. His threats would have carried more weight 20 years ago. Now thanks to relentless outsourcing and offshoring by US companies in the name of maximizing hareholder returns, his threatened tariffs would more often than not damage US consumers and US corporate profits more than those foreign preditors.

        1. Doing damage to America whilst promoting Donnie has never been a deterent in his past calculations, why now? I think now that he is either going to declare himself president for life or cannot run again, why care for what his supporter think at all. The double cross is clearly in his capability.

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